The latest updates on the death of Ryan McMillan

The latest updates on the death of Ryan McMillan

The latest updates on the death of Ryan McMillan
December 13
01:34 2015

Dalton LaFerney | News Editor

Tiffany Ditto | Contributing Writer

Nicholas Friedman | Editor-in-Chief

UNT police shoot and kill 21-year-old sophomore

Ryan McMillan had just turned 21 when he was shot and killed on the corner of Fry and Oak streets by UNT police Cpl. Stephen Bean, 27, early in the morning on Sunday, Dec. 13. The pre-hospitality sophomore’s first semester at UNT was over, but he didn’t leave Denton.

Police block off the road outside of the UCentre apartment complex on Fry St. Saturday night after a UNT police officer shot and killed a suspect. Hannah Ridings/North Texas Daily

The call was initially made to the Denton Police Department but was picked up by UNT police since the corner of Fry St. and Oak St. are within its jurisdiction. Hannah Ridings | Senior Staff Photographer

McMillan, a Fort Worth native and transfer from Weatherford College, died at a local hospital after being shot after allegedly smashing car windows with an axe. University officials said McMillan “advanced on” the officer, resulting in the man being shot.

The Texas Rangers are leading the investigation, and the officer has been placed on administrative leave, standard, officials said, for police-involved shooting investigations. The investigation could take months, officials said.

Police camera footage was released Tuesday, Dec. 15, which showed McMillan walking, holding but not lifting the axe, toward Bean, who told McMillan about six times to stop. But McMillan kept moving, telling Bean to “Shoot me! Just shoot me!”

A toxicology report was ordered in the autopsy of McMillan. The Tarrant County Medical Examiner’s Office said autopsy results could be available as late as February.

UNT President Neal Smatresk emailed an official statement on McMillan’s death, saying, “This is a tragic event that saddens us as a university community. We offer our condolences to the individuals, their families and all involved.”

Photo from the scene. Contains graphic content.
Denton, Texas 12/13/2015 An unidentified male lies across Oak Street after being shot four times by police. Bystanders say they saw the man carrying a pole or axe, but were not sure. Police did not confirm.

First responders treat an injured Ryan McMillian after being shot by police. Tyler Cleveland | Special Contributor

He went on to say the police officer has been placed on administrative leave while authorities fully investigate the shooting.

The initial call, which was originally made to Denton police, was picked up by UNT police, because the corner for Fry and Oak streets is within its jurisdiction.

When the rain began to pour early Sunday morning, police were still working the crime scene on the corner of Fry and Oak streets. Some bargoers leaving the Fry Street area ran through the rain to find police tape and officers telling them their cars may not be moved for hours, as investigators recover details.

“It could be hours,” one officer said. Police were seen in the area as late as 6 a.m.

Next to her roommate along Oak Street stood Ashley Jones, a UNT student who said she knew McMillan as an acquaintance.

“He seemed like a really cool person, really down to earth,” she said. “He was the last person I would think to do that, at least from the vibes I got from him.”

As the wind popped yellow police tape nearby, Jones looked on and recalled the moment McMillan stood in the first floor of the U Centre parking garage with what she remembered as a hammer, and smashed the hood of her car.

The police came, there were shots, “and that was it,” Jones said.

Another witness, who did not offer his name, said he saw McMillan, with blood on his chest, carrying an axe and was shot four times by the UNT police officer.

Police officers working the scene took reports from witnesses and those who claimed damages from the man.

There are eight people listed as victims in Denton Police Department’s incident reporting following the criminal mischief/vandalism call Sunday morning.

“He didn’t leave a window unbroken,” U Centre resident Andrew Cardenas said. “The cars he hit had all their windows smashed.”

Cardenas, a biology student , was returning home from work in the few minutes after police shot McMillan. He arrived to find dozens of police cruisers and police tape.

“There were a lot of cops and I knew it was something different,” Cardenas said. “The [police cars] occupied the entire road and I couldn’t get into the parking garage.”

Larissa Kosier, a senior criminal justice major, found her with the windows smashed in.

“All of the windows aside from the windshield were smashed, he also hit the side panels,” Kosier said. “I got towed yesterday, my car may be totaled.” 

Kosier said she doesn’t think any particular cars were targeted.
“You can see, in the parking garage, it was random,” she said. “It’s all really confusing.” 

Some feel as though the incident leaves many questions unanswered. Denton resident Buster Woodham questions the officer’s use of force. Woodham also wonders where McMillan’s friends were and if he was celebrating his birthday.

“Did the cops really need to shoot him in the chest?” Woodham said. “Where were his friends?”

Other locals on and near Fry Street Monday said despite the incident they still feel safe in the area known for its bar scene.

“I still feel safe on Fry Street because the police are always here,” English freshman Fatima Alrushdi said.

The real change, some feel, isn’t in the way they feel about Denton, but about how Denton will be perceived from now on.

“For the most part I still feel safe, but this incident is legitimizing Denton as a place where bad s–t happens,” Woodham said.

The North Texas Daily is following this story. Updates will be posted when they are made available.

Featured image: Police block the road outside of the UCentre apartment complex on Fry Street. Hannah Ridings | Senior Staff Photographer

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  1. Blasmine
    Blasmine December 13, 02:04

    Wut
    This makes no sense

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  2. Concerned
    Concerned December 13, 02:29

    Has the person been identified yet?

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  3. Nicocolio
    Nicocolio December 13, 07:45

    Wow. How crazy that this happened right here in Denton. I’m not sure four bullets was needed or not. It seems like a bit much. Maybe the kid was on drugs or something. Who knows.

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  4. Gwoodruff
    Gwoodruff December 13, 10:48

    How is a hammer or axe wielded by an obviously mentally deranged student enough to require a fatal shot? They have tasers and pepper spray….

    Prime example of trigger happy police.

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    • Happy
      Happy December 13, 14:40

      It was pouring rain during that time. Neither tasing or pepper spray would have worked. Besides I’m sure most people would agree if someone charges you with an axe you aren’t going to risk using a tool that may or may not work. Your going to use the one tool you know will stop the assailant. Sometimes people who mess with fire get burned. No one is at fault except for the young man who made a bad decision and ended up paying the price.

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      • Txzen
        Txzen December 13, 16:32

        WHere does it say he charged anyone?

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      • Resident
        Resident December 13, 18:30

        My neighbors and I could see the event from our parking lot and it was NOT raining at the time the man was shot. I think it’s interesting to note the extremely misleading way this report is written. A few examples:
        1 . There were already multiple police cars on the scene at the time shots were fired. I could see four before trees obscured my view, but that number rose to well over 10+ by the end of the night/morning.
        2. The headline states axe, when the only witness who is identified and is confirmed to have had the actual encounter with the man is saying it was a hammer.
        3. The report fails to mention whether the man was armed when he “advanced” on the officer, which is an interesting choice considering none of us were able to see him holding anything let alone a weapon. Seems like an important detail to at least mention. Most people aren’t going to bring a knife, hammer, or axe to a gunfight especially if the guns belong to cops.
        4. There were entire groups of people on one side of the street who saw that the police didn’t bother to take statements from, instead keeping them about 15-20 feet away from the police tape which itself was farther than that even from the actual crime scene.
        5. The report states that the police showed up shots were fired and that was it, but that’s clearly not the whole story or even what she actually said as the only bit that’s quoted from the witness is “that was it. ” There is OBVIOUSLY more to the story than that, and either they didn’t bother to ask or just straight up omitted it.
        6. The shots were fired in rapid succession. Again, unless he whipped out a gun from somewhere, I have a hard time seeing why FOUR shots were needed to take a (probably drunk and dumb) 21 year old down.

        At best, this article is the worst kind of lazily researched shoddy reporting. At worst, it is an article designed to fuel the same fears that likely caused the officer to overreact in the first place. Fears that come from equally useless reports about similar news items. Are we meant to infer that blame lies squarely on the victim here? The line is much blurrier than that, and the truth of that should be reflected in any stories released about the fatal shooting of any human being. I visited this website in the hope that I would see something to make sense of this whole mess, but I’m leaving with a worse taste in my mouth than ever. I don’t even know why I’m surprised. If this is the state of journalism today, then we have a lot of soul searching to do. Is this what we want for ourselves?

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        • InkSlinger
          InkSlinger February 23, 22:20

          Thank you for an eloquently embroidered tapestry of truth-telling. I believe your proximity to the scene, both in the moments prior and during the climactic juncture at which this death occurred, would easily have afforded you firsthand insight of the events. The myriad of articles that are poorly researched, plagiarized, fabricated and inflammatory, simply to be inflammatory, are far too common in this era. How did we wander so far off the beaten path of ethical and responsible journalism?

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        • gweese
          gweese March 07, 14:32

          I hope you and your friends will come forward if you havent already and talk to Mcmillans lawyer

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      • Training-o
        Training-o December 13, 23:05

        Obviously you have never been tased (works perfectly in the rain, if not better! Or pepper sprayed- again, works perfectly in the rain at normal application distances. Simply a case of an inadequately trained LE person, doing what he had been taught to do with a one drawer tool box with only two tools available. Focus should be on cops superiors who denied the cop industry standard training, education, and equipment. If your force continuum consists solely of scream and shoot, then that’s what you’ll use!

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        • guy
          guy December 14, 11:39

          Unless you saw the entire thing you don’t know what happened. This has nothing to do with anyone else and the cops are talking to people who actually saw anything which from what i have read from personal accounts in the comment section is nobody. It looks like some people were close but not actually standing in front of the cop when the shots were fired. I’m not flaming people for wanting to talk about this. I am saying don’t weave it into a comfortable narrative about gun control if you didn’t witness the physical shooting. if you did you should have already contacted Denton pd non emergency, or been out there on the scene and followed police instructions.

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    • CBRUCE
      CBRUCE December 14, 11:48

      Until video is released there is no way to know 100% for sure why the officer would have thought it was necessary to shoot versus use other less lethal means. However, an axe, knife, hammer, scissor, could all be considered a deadly weapon. If you make a stupid decision to go on a rampage drop the deadly weapon before police arrive.

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  5. Chuck
    Chuck December 13, 10:53

    The automatic “shoot to kill” training/philosophy of police has got to end.

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    • Dat
      Dat December 14, 11:52

      Police are not trained to shoot to kill, they are trained to shoot to stop the threat. Whether that takes one round, or four depends on the suspect. Also shooting a person in the legs or anywhere that only injures them is nearly impossible. I encourage you to go to a range and try then think of the target was moving.

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  6. Rastamon
    Rastamon December 13, 11:13

    I mon no stay in Babylon wid no justice.

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  7. Police murder
    Police murder December 13, 11:23

    Why were tasers not used? An axe, verses a gun? Police brutality.

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    • EmptyDMag
      EmptyDMag December 14, 11:16

      Most of you people have lost your mind……… as a Texas citizen you have the right to use deadly force on someone with a hatchet hitting your car(property), coming towards you or someone else without knowing their intentions. Let me be clear…… I would empty 14 rounds of 230grain .45 in you and reload, if you were at my house, hitting my car with a hammer, ax , hatchet, butter knife or toy gun. You mess with the bull you will get the horn….. don’t start none, there wont be none. I think idiots who blame the police for using the force they are trained to use should be banned from calling 911 for police assistance….you can wait for the ambulance after the psyco is done with you and your family.

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  8. johnny B
    johnny B December 13, 11:37

    This reporter is obviously bias towards the issue… there we go again another generation of reporters going down to crap…guiding the people to your beliefs, not actuality

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  9. tarnishedtiara
    tarnishedtiara December 13, 11:55

    This makes no sense at all. Ashley Jones says that she knew him and he was really cool and down to earth and she couldn’t imagine him doing this, yet she remembers him smashing the hood of her car with a hammer?!? This witness must have been drunk.

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    • Travia
      Travia December 13, 16:15

      The lady who lived next to Jeffrey Dahmer thought he was the nicest guy and wouldn’t do anything like that.

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    • Ashley Jones
      Ashley Jones December 14, 01:27

      Hello, I’m the witness who was interviewed for this article and I want to clarify that I was by no means drunk.. When being interviewed I said hammer but meant to say axe. This is how the whole hammer/axe confusion began. I later clarified to reporters and police that it was indeed an axe, and that I used the wrong word by mistake. I said that he seemed cool and down to earth in a general way, but did not say he was cool and down to earth while this tragedy was taking place.

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  10. Jordan
    Jordan December 13, 12:04

    Honestly I don’t know the entire story as I was not there but I do know how hard it is for an officer to do his job. He has to go ny training also by the law. We shouldn’t jump on the police brutality bandwagon so fast. Once again I don’t know what happened nor do any of you. This officer has family somewhere. People who care for him. He’s just trying to protect people in his community as well as himself.

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  11. Jwiertsema
    Jwiertsema December 13, 12:59

    All of you already condemning this officer are idiots. You dont know how close the guy was and believe me if you were in the cops spot and someone ran at you with an axe you are going to defend yourself. Although I’m sure some of you ignorant kids wouldn’t understand wanting to make sure that you get to go home to your wife and kids having no life experience but I can garauntee that had that guy been running at you and the cop had shot him instead of tazing your dumbasses wouldn’t be complaining.

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  12. JBoy32
    JBoy32 December 13, 13:08

    The ignorance in these comments is astounding. An axe is a deadly weapon which means it is a life or death situation. More than enough reason to use a gun. Tasers? The barbs need to actually hit the target and pierce the skin. If he’s moving rapidly and advancing on yiu with an axe are you really going to take that chance? Pepper Spray? Have you been sprayed before? Yeah it hurts but it doesn’t knock you back or incapacitate you. Life isn’t like the movies. Everyone likes to think they would know how to resolve a situation peacefully until they face it for themselves.

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  13. Luke 13:1-5
    Luke 13:1-5 December 13, 13:08

    May God have mercy on our campus. Death is serious no matter who is at fault here.

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  14. chuckster
    chuckster December 13, 13:15

    Good job UNT police, one less crazy thug to worry about. Everyone wants to blame the police for excessive force until the crazy is coming after them with the ax. Again, thank you UNT police for a job well done.

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  15. Jhowell
    Jhowell December 13, 13:32

    As much as it’s unfair for us to assume that the victim was completely in the wrong, it’s also unfair to assume the same of the police. They aren’t taught to ‘shoot to kill’ they are taught to shoot to stop the threat. Were you there last night? Did you see and hear and experience everything that officer did? I was waiting for this backlash on police from the moment I saw the news. Everyone these days seems to know how to do a policeman’s job, except for the police. We, as a society, have got to stand behind those in blue. Unless you’ve been in their shoes, don’t pretend to know what it’s like, what their guidelines are, and how they should respond. First and foremost, let’s be in prayer for those affected. The victim’s family and friends, witnesses, and yes, the police.

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  16. Rita B.
    Rita B. December 13, 13:55

    Johnny B–How is the reporter biased? (Yes, it’s “biased” not “bias.”) I see nothing in this article that is biased, except your comment.

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  17. Just me
    Just me December 13, 13:57

    Got what he deserved, act like a fool you pay the price.

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  18. Bfergs
    Bfergs December 13, 14:14

    To all of you guys posting about “police brutality”, “non-lethals” and the like. Clearly you have never been in a serious altercation in your life. Let alone one with a knife/axe/hammer wielding individual who clearly has mental problems whether drug induced or not. Non-lethals (including tasers) do not fully incapacitate a person. Especially one who is mentally not there. Psychotic breaks and certain drugs also create a higher pain tolerance and strength because the brain is NOT functioning as it should. Considering the brain is where pain is processed it is easy to see why.

    Besides, I bet you would sing an entirely different tune if somebody came at you with and axe .

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  19. peen
    peen December 13, 14:54

    Deadly force is met with deadly force period. You do not meet deadly force with less lethal force. Officers do not suit up planning to take a life but if placed in that situation you have to be fully prepared to do so. Next time you are at a hardware store pick up an ax…….could it kill you if you were hit with it?

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  20. DIWAS
    DIWAS December 13, 15:27

    So this kid just turned 21. obviously had a little too much. And all you guys blaming the cop amuse me.Were you there? Did you see how close this guy was to the cop? If your answer is no, dont judge.

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  21. KUNGFU FIGHTER
    KUNGFU FIGHTER December 13, 16:11

    Yet another Police shooting? What ever happened to “hand to hand combat” or just shooting someone in the leg/foot… or a warning shot? 4 shots? I’m jumping a bit here, but overall, the “Police” in this country seem to be out of control. Not saying this cop is bad… But, I’m an older male with some physical disabilities and I am certain that I could put enough distance between myself and someone with a knife, hatchet, etc… (in most situations) in order to provide a “warning shot,” or just wounding the guy. Maybe the guy had mental issues? Drugs? Drunk? All of the above? Can’t wait to see the video.

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    • Julie
      Julie December 13, 18:30

      I agree, shouldn’t police be taught deal with aggressors with hand to hand combat first? For those of you posting comments to the tune of “got what he deserved” and “play with fire and you’ll get burned” should stop and take a moment to think. What if this young deceased person was a family member or close friend? It’s so thoughtless to post generic “your two cents” comments about a completely tragic event that happened in our small community. I feel bad for both people involved. One person is dead, and the others life will never be the same. Even if the cop was legally allowed to use fatal force, does that mean it was morally right? We have to recognize that there is a problem, not only with our justice system, but we also have a problem within the community. There is no wrong or right side, we have layered and complex issues here. Once we start to recognize the problems, and stop trying to scapegoat our way out of dealing with them things will change for the better.

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    • JBoy32
      JBoy32 December 13, 19:41

      Hand to hand combat? As an older male I would hope you were a little more wiser than that! If someone is advancing on you with an axe, a deadly weapon, why would you take the risk of being harmed or killed by taking him on in a fight? Shoot him in the leg? Go to a gun range and see how hard it is to hit a small target from even just 10 feet away under favorable relaxed conditions. Now your life is in danger because a real life person is coming after you with a deadly weapon. And where exactly would you fire your warning shot to ensure it won’t hit a civilian or ricochet into an innocent person? It isn’t like the movies. Everyone likes to think they could do better until fantasy becomes reality.

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    • UNTstudent
      UNTstudent December 14, 11:53

      1. Hand to hand combat could have resulted in the police officer to obtain serious injury or worse. I have seen what I knife can do to human flesh… and axe would have been so much worse. 2. Cops are trained to shoot at center mass because it is the biggest target. It would be extremely hard to shoot a moving target in the leg. 3. A “warning shot” would be very dangerous to bystanders. The bullet has to go somewhere. This was a very tragic situation.

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  22. Mike Watson
    Mike Watson December 13, 16:35

    For everyone that thinks the police did the wrong thing, please watch this video.

    police knife training video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9igSoJHEdUo

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  23. n00b
    n00b December 13, 16:49

    There is no such thing as “shoot to wound” or “shoot to kill”. Police “shoot to stop”, meaning that in situations like this they shoot until the target stops being a threat. There is nothing about “proportionality” or making it a “fair fight”. The police are not there to get into “fair fights”, they are there to stop threats.

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  24. lold
    lold December 13, 17:10

    i can almost promise he was on prescription drugs.

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  25. Hitback1st
    Hitback1st December 13, 17:35

    Oh yea non lethal force worked great in white Rock Creek. You know, where the old man was killed by a machete. Or the new York police officers that got seriously injured when he got hit in the head by a hatchet. But that’s none of my business…

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  26. UNT Student
    UNT Student December 13, 18:32

    Either way he should not have been running towards the officer with an axe. If the officer saw blood on his shirt they can either assume that it is his blood or someone else’s. Since this guy ran towards him with an axe along with blood on his, the police was shooting stop him from potentially hurting someone else and to protect his life. I pray that he rests in peace though, no one deserves to die.

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  27. Carebear
    Carebear December 13, 18:53

    I was at Kush at the time it happened. Someone who works there said that the man came at the cop with the weapon (he recalls it being a hammer.. But an axe is obviously much worse). He said he was shot at six times. A lot of people are saying that shooting him was unnecessary… Yes as many shots as were taken was a bit over done, however if a person is coming at you with an axe in pouring rain; I’m pretty sure using mace would not have worked, plus you would have to be close enough to aim at the suspect and the guy could have chunked that axe right at him! Or even if you tased him… Still could have came at you or potentially have hurt himself while being tased. It was a tragic death… But now we all learn to not carry an axe around while crashing in car windows. (Especially if you are drunk.)

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  28. OzarkEagle
    OzarkEagle December 13, 19:58

    It is not normal for somebody to walk around smashing windows with an axe. It also looks a little strange requiring four gun shots to stop someone advancing toward them. I hope we find out soon what the rest of the story is. I hate this happening at my alma mater.

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  29. J
    J December 13, 22:29

    Fake , lies and the media… Keep believing sheep

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  30. Mitch
    Mitch December 14, 05:33

    here’s a thought, drop the axe.

    Seriously, how about we stop this culture of excusing moronic behavior just because kids can’t help getting high or drunk to the point where they act like complete idiots. If you go around smashing cars with an axe, you deserve something really bad to happen to you in return. If you can’t control your behavior when high or drunk, then don’t fking get high or drunk.

    And about the four shots, it doesn’t work like, “fire one shot, wait and see if that’s enough” Once you’ve been deemed a threat that needs to go down, they fire until you go down. God, people, get a frigging clue.

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  31. Kats
    Kats December 14, 08:09

    Whatever happened to police officers protecting and serving the public?

    First Problem: Police Officers have a “Warrior” when we need them to have a “Guardian” mentality. Warriors need to have someone to battle against. They need a foe. This creates a situation of the police versus citizens.

    Second Problem: People who are Police Officers have below to average intelligence. Police departments seek out people with at or below average intelligence. There are many court cases of intelligent people who score too high on exams and get rejected for a police officer position. Police departments do not want officers with critical thinking and problem solving skills. Police departments want officers who do what they are told, when they are told, and not think.

    Third Problem: Police officers have minimal skills. All other professional jobs require education, several hundred hours of pre-employment training, and many hours on ongoing training. Police officers lack a basic understanding of the law they are supposed to be enforcing.

    Fourth Problem: The people accepted as police officers have limited interpersonal skills. They do not know how to resolve conflict. Because of their “warrior” mentality, they purposely choose to escalate conflict in order to then “take down” their foe (citizen).

    Fifth Problem: Police officers are not, generally, honest people. They lie to justify their own actions. They lie to support a fellow officer’s statements to justify the fellow officer’s actions. They do whatever it takes to gather evidence – even if they have to create evidence of a person’s guilt in order to support a conviction. It is only with dash-cameras and cell phone videos that the truth comes out. And, police officers know to “adjust” their cameras to avoid detection.

    Texas has more people in prison then any state in the U.S. and any country in the world. Texas has convicted more innocent people to death than any U.S. state or any country in the world.

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  32. Sarah
    Sarah December 14, 09:58

    It breaks my heart to read about such a young life being lost. However, it is up to God to decide what course of action is best for this man.

    Please pray for his family in this difficult time.

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  33. kat
    kat December 14, 10:47

    There really needs be state and national discussions about the quality of Police Officers and police practices.

    FIRST: Police Officers are of below average to average intelligence. Police departments intentionally seek out people who are of below average intelligence using the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test or similar test. The standard range of scores for Police Officer candidates range from 20 to 27 with the average score of 21, nationally. The high score is the equivalent of an IQ of 104 (average). Consider that a perfect score is 50. Police Departments have been sued by high-scoring applicants who are denied employment and the courts agree that police departments may discriminate based on intelligence because “People within certain [intelligence] ranges achieve a degree of job satisfaction and are likely to be happy and therefore stay on the job.” Police departments and the courts believe that smart people cannot be happy being a cop. Example – Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, Robert Jordan v. City of New London, No. 99-9188, 2000 U.S. App. Lexis 22195 (Unpublished).

    SECOND: Police officers are the only profession that does not require the attainment of a college education, several hundred hours of pre-employment training, and continuous education. Police officers have a minimal understanding, but, lack a working knowledge of the legal system and the laws they are “sworn” to uphold. As a result, they use their personal opinion to supplement the lack of real knowledge about “the law.” Therefore, they lack the basic critical thinking skills to quickly and properly assess a situation and plot a solution to de-escalate and disarm without conflict.

    THIRD: Police Officers, due to their low intelligence level, lack of education, and poor training, do not have sufficient interpersonal skills to resolve conflicts without altercation. As a result, police officers engage the public and escalate a situation until it is out of control and then act aggressively against the public (verbally and then physically) until there is an altercation leading to an escalated physical assault, injury or death of a member of the public.

    FOURTH: Police departments and police officers promote themselves as being “warriors.” This directly contradicts how police departments advertise that they “Protect and Serve.” The dictionary defines “Warrior” as: “[A] brave or experienced soldier or fighter. Synonyms: fighter, soldier, serviceman, combatant, mercenary.” Warriors must have an enemy to suppress and overcome. In the case of police departments, their enemy is the public.

    Police departments and police officers should have a “Guardian” mentality. The definition of Guardian is: “[A] defender, protector, or keeper. Synonyms: protector, defender, preserver, custodian, warden, guard, keeper.” This is consistent with Protecting and Serving the public.

    We need police officers who are intelligent and have the critical thinking skills, training, education and experience to plot a solution to resolve a conflict without resorting to killing a person as their first option.

    We need Andy Griffin, and NOT Barney Fife.

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  34. Marlon Burton
    Marlon Burton December 14, 15:30

    Ok, Lets see the footage

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  35. Tyler Hollyfield
    Tyler Hollyfield December 14, 20:21

    An axe?! LOL. That’s a god damn hatchet. And what ever happened to cops using stun guns? I always thought cops were only supposed to use deadly force if they’re being shot at. What a pussy. This makes me angry.

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  36. Tylerhollyfield
    Tylerhollyfield December 14, 20:26

    An axe?! LOL. That’s a frekin hatchet. And what ever happened to cops using stun guns? I always thought cops were only supposed to use deadly force if they’re being shot at. What a pussy. This makes me angry.

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  37. D
    D December 15, 00:41

    Before I rant about some of the idiotic comments let me send my prayers to the friends and family of the young man that lost his life and to the Officer involved and the UNT Police dept. Im sure this young man didn’t start his evening out with the intention of breaking laws and putting himself in the situation that cost him his life but he did and i personally know enough of the UNT officers to know that they don’t go out just looking for any excuse to draw their firearms. Now for the rant, why use deadly force? He had an axe, that’s a deadly weapon when your not using it as the tool it was intended for. I’m assuming he wasn’t chopping down trees. Why more than one shot? Obviously you don’t know much about firearms, most handgun rounds don’t have one shot and done knock down energy unless you have time to aim and hit vital organs that’s why in defense situations you aim and fire center mass until the threat stops. Why not shoot in the arm or leg? Again you haven’t been around firearms much. You don’t have time to place shots that accurately this is real life not Hollywood or play station and if you miss that arm or leg your responsible for where that bullet ends up and if that were an innocent bystander or into a nearby home and say hit a child laying in their bed because you wanted to only wound a criminal your at fault.. And the comment that irritated me the most cops are below average intelligence. I’m sure in this world there may be some that are same as there are some that are bad cops but most of the men and women are good people doing there job to make the world a civil place for the law abiding public to live a job that’s pretty damn tough considering the numbers ( population vs police) the actual intelligence problem comes from the idiots posting these stupid comments. They think because they’ve gotten a fancy piece of paper and a college education that they are worldly wise to everything when in reality commonsense left the building on most of them.

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  38. pennylane
    pennylane December 15, 01:13

    I suggest that anyone who has decided that the officer in question should have handled things differently should provide your name and contact information to the police department. Then the next time someone goes ballistic, they can call you to handle the situation.

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  39. TexasGorLiberty
    TexasGorLiberty December 15, 08:02

    Why not shoot him in the leg or arm? Why must you kill him?

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  40. Gj
    Gj December 15, 11:36

    Please citizens let’s wait to hear the whole story and not jump the police or the boy ! I’m sure the police tried to do the best for all of you. Something seemed awry with the boy that night. Sorry for him and his family who has to live with this the rest of their lives! Rip young man and sorry for the loss! Everyone needs to step back and just let everyone do their job. We will know soon enough so stop the blame game please. Show your humanity!! We are all better than that in Texas!

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  41. Jnratunt927
    Jnratunt927 December 16, 11:57

    Hi I am a student at UNT / Denton resident for 3 years and I feel like this story is very invasive. While it’s an attention grabbing headline it’s still a tragic story and someone who is our age and was probably just way too messed up on something has died because of poor impulsive decisions. Like the pic of him laying in the street …. Imagine if that was your brother or your son and someone’s (this newspaper) getting ratings / money off of their death. Be a little more sensitive. You should take down that pic.

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  42. Optimist
    Optimist December 17, 00:46

    WOW….where to begin?
    Though it took me awhile to decipher your style of grammar as you made your case of describing how cops have lower intelligence levels, I believe I now have pieced enough of your gibberish together to get an idea of the point you were trying to make. Let’s examine some of these…
    Warrior mindset: Perhaps on this point we may not be so far apart. Heck I’m not even too fond of the term myself, but you had better believe when two knuckleheads drive all the way from Arizona armed with AK-47 rifles and handguns with the intent to kill YOU and every other person attending a particular event, you had better be capable of taking on a role at least similar to that of a warrior fighting in a far-away land. Those 7.62 rounds travel just as fast in Garland, Texas as they do in Fallujah.
    The second issue you take is claiming police officers have below average intelligence. REALLY? How on Earth do you know what the Intelligence Quotient is for a given body of persons? Is this maintained in the files of an agency’s Human Resources department? If so, were you able to gain access to it via a FOIA request? I personally know of many officers that have achieved great academic success throughout their careers if that is what you happen to be basing your standard upon. I’d caution you on doing so, because I also know of an equal amount of functioning idiots that have nicely framed diplomas decorating their office spaces.
    I’ve never known any police department to actively seek out people with at or below average intelligence as you assert. Considering the world of vicarious liability we live in, handing a “dummy” a badge, gun and set of handcuffs then telling him/her to go be a “warrior” might pave the road of a very short career for said police administrator. Just reflect on how absurd your comment is.
    You claim, “There are many court cases where intelligent people scored too high on exams to become hired.” (By the way, THANK YOU for putting that second “o” in too. Far too often internet commandos neglect this and it speaks volumes of their own Intelligence Quotient deficiency.) Often, when certain court cases are discussed the author will cite the specific case. This would be very helpful in making your argument.
    For your third concern, you state that police officers have minimal skills and that all other professional jobs require several hundred hours of pre-employment and reoccurring annual training. The minimum amount of pre-employment training hours even the greenest of the rookies possess would be those 640+ hours they received while attending a Basic Police Officer Course (aka Police Academy). Keep in mind, that is nowhere near the actual amount of training said rookie has attended (refer to the vicarious liability reference above).
    Police officers lack a basic understanding of the law they are supposed to be enforcing? Obviously you’ve never had to get a Probable Cause affidavit approved by a 30 year Lieutenant who is Obsessive Compulsive when it comes to preparing case reports. If you had, you’d have learned to hate red pens.
    Fourth Problem: The people accepted as police officers have limited interpersonal skills. Oh buddy…I’ll quit with the snide comments about your post for a moment. Seriously Sir, without an amazing set of interpersonal skills a person will never last in this field. Imagine what type of skill it takes to convince a young child that you are looking out for her protection as you summon CPS caretakers to remove her from the deplorable conditions that her parents have subjected her to. All her life she has been told of Stranger Danger (hopefully) yet it is you who is tearing her away from the only security she has ever known. Imagine looking into the swollen eyes of a battered person as they plead for you not to take away their assaulter. Trying to convince you that those injuries were not the fault of the accused, but of her own. And pal, these examples don’t even scratch the surface of the type of interpersonal skills you’d better have within you before you even consider answering Calling.
    Perhaps some of my words you have taken to heart and reconsidered your previous conclusions about what makes up a police officer. Then again, perhaps you haven’t. Either way I thank you for your post and for creating this opportunity for others to see varying views of those people we call “Peace Officers.”

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  43. jcp
    jcp December 27, 22:21

    There is a serious drug on the streets all over America and it is called ‘flakka’. Is there any connection between the mikki that was slipped into Christian Taylor and this bazarre case? http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arlington-police-officer-who-killed-christian-taylor-fired-n408131

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